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March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: Myopia ()
Date: March 14, 2010 01:40PM

Wow, every week the FFAs keep getting better and better. Don't miss FFA #4! Sign up!

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: Myopia ()
Date: March 14, 2010 03:50PM

And if you do sign up, don't chicken out like LNO and Adrien did!

Jenny you should come back to, there was much less backstabbing last game.

We also miss Keira! Squeegie, Xuul, needs you guys in here too.

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: Sovereign ()
Date: March 14, 2010 03:55PM

My flaw in the third FFA, as Myopia so obviously pointed out, was that I declared victory a day early. I will rectify that next week by declaring victory now. Sign me up!

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: vintage ()
Date: March 14, 2010 08:35PM

morning ladies and gents.
please sign me up to. checked my calendar and i have no appointments next sunday so i will be ready for some ffa. :)

is the results of last nights match posted anywhere ?

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: LikeNoOthers ()
Date: March 14, 2010 09:57PM

Sure, count me in for now, but i cant promise anything wont come up.

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: tw ()
Date: March 14, 2010 11:36PM

Sign me up!

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: Scum ()
Date: March 14, 2010 11:40PM

Sign me up.

Although I may not be able to be here because I might go out of town. Spring Break.

So don't wait for me if I am not there at 6pm GMT.

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: Akiran ()
Date: March 15, 2010 11:29AM

Malakira

Im in

M-K

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: IceQueen ()
Date: March 16, 2010 08:18AM

OK, I'm in

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: : ()
Date: March 16, 2010 08:48AM

Chicken out?
Well i'd better not sign up for this one, since i most likely won't be home d:

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: Myopia ()
Date: March 17, 2010 03:58PM

Buckaw!

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: Myopia ()
Date: March 21, 2010 06:57PM

Another FFA has come and gone, but truth be told, the 4th failed to live up to expectations. 30 minutes to get 12 players, player abandonment, piss poor attitude, long years of peace, lengthy drawn out isolated wars... its enough to make me throw away the reputation of a man of alliances and go Sokrates route.

With that said, here's the recap.

March 21st FFA

Roster

Flanders, Sokrates
Lithuania, Icequeen
Tunis, Adrien
Nicaea, Myopia
Aragon, Malakira
Norway, JD
Serbia, Mrscientist
Genoa, Rex
Brandenburg, Patje
Palestine, RockstaR
Eire, James
Morocco, LNO

Early wars-

With the additional spacing in a 12 player FFA, I anticipated lots of build up with much less fighting at the beginning of the game. Nostradamus I am not, because almost immediately Malakria sought to press his Aragon advantage over LNO in Morocco, while JD aimed for the british isles, with James in Eire. Rex in Genoa felt confident against Adrien in Tunis, and even more so when Rockstar began attacking Adrien.

At turn 8 the first eye-opener occurred when Sokrates launched a surprise attack on Rex, who astutely said I only have myself to blame for trusting Sokrates. Not often have truer words been spoken in Conqueror. Rex however, though taken by surprise, showed some resilience and regained control of his lands. However, at turn 10, Malakira attacked Rex's exposed western flank, while in the north, Icequeen chose to attack JD, because luck of the irish ran out out also in turn 10, with James being the first casualty of war. Leprechauns cried everywhere.

Rex tried his best to keep a semblance of order in his lands in the early 3 front war, but fell in turn 14 to the overwhelming armies of Sokrates, with Adrien and Malakira gobbling up the rest of Rex's lands. The specter of a mighty Sokrates in western continental Europe returned, while JD skillfully resisted Icequeen's attack and began slowly pushing her back to Lithuania.

Balancing of Power

MrScientist, firmly entrenched in his position and having a loyal ally at his back in Nicaea, decided to renew the pressure on Adrien, who was having a grinding battle with RockstaR along the coasts of Africa. On the same turn, I worked in concert with him, attacking RockstaR.

Sokrates, with the strongest nation on board, played the role of peacekeeper and sent sizable forces to assist Adrien on turn 19, forcing MrScientist to expand his fighting front. Adrien had avoided death once more. Patje saw an opportunity and took it, massing forces on turn 21 and sending them with the objective of taking down Flanders. JD noticed the build up, and acted to protect his ally, sending an army south to distract Patje. Patje's concentration did not waver however, and he took Sokrates capital turn 24. Sokrates would continue the fight, but the next major development was RockstaR falling in turn 25.

Icequeen began attacking JD in earnest, and it was apparent that a Northern Alliance was emerging ala the Southern Alliance of last game, as Patje also shifted his forces northward, and picking off UK's underdefended lands. With Palestine fallen, I continued the push towards Tunis, with MrScientist sending some assistance through Macedonia, prompting Adrien to surrender ungraciously, leaving turn 32 with his capital untaken, and Patje finished off Sokrates who had retaken his capital, but losing it this winter for good. At some point around now, Malakira also left, with MrScientist free to push westward with no hindrance from Malakira's former allies Sokrates and Adrien. Turn 39, JD found himself a victim to the Northern Alliance once more, falling to Icequeen with the aforementioned Patje running rampant through JD's former backlands. RockstaR took Adrien's absense as an opportunity to harass Nicaea again, taking over Tunis, but Nicaea had built too much momentum and advanced lands, with Tunis falling for good turn 45.

Interlude- Detente

With Aragon being AI, MrScientist leisurely picked off the lands formerlg belonging to Malakira. Icequeen in Lithuania and Patje in Brandenburg had forged a peace with MrScientist. Nicaea was isolated from the north, yet not at peace with Lithuania or Brandenburg. A peaceful period would ensue on the surface, but underneath mistrust bred thousands of armies between the four powers, castles being constructed. In a FFA I have never seen a period of peace like this- I did not notate it, but I estimate that it was 12 turns of peace. A four turn notice at some point was given by Icequeen, who then proceeded to war against MrScientist solo. With the first move and taking a key castle in Moldavia, there MrScientist's capital fell turn 62.

Battle in the Trenches

After Icequeen had sacked Mrscientist's capital, Patje took Poland and Moldavia, sealing off Icequeen. His purpose was to begin a war with Nicaea, which was ready, with 190k country in byzantium. Because we were both at peace with Mr Scientist, we fought along a thin corridor of the easternmost countries. However, much to my dismay and admiration, Patje punched through my lines and brought an army to Nicaea's doorstep. His 100 was not immediately daunting compared to the 300 I had in defenders, but I looked to the future and the crystal ball told me to Try Again next game. However, Icequeen was tiring and looking for a replacement, and RockstaR once more returned, but this time not to plague me. Upon arriving, he announced that in 4 turns he would be attacking Patje. Patje responded by taking RockstaR's capital around turn 80, and even threatened to wipe him off the map. However, this gave me the opportunity to build up armies and push them through the narrow corridor Mr. Scientist allowed me. This was very slow moving as brandenburg was 5 steps from my cap due to having to go around MrScientist, hence it was turn 90 that I took Patje's capital. RockstaR's capital fell in turn 94, with the protestation of 4 season notice required for war. Throughout the wars, I had ample opportunity to sack MrScientist's capital, so we had decided earlier if it came down to the two of us, whoever had more population when everything wiped off the map is the winner. I had 2 more population, and thus the 4th FFA ended.

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: MrScientist ()
Date: March 22, 2010 05:52AM

Yep. It was not the most epic game ever (apparantly the result doesn't deserve its own thread), but entertaining nonetheless. The problem with the alliances was that in the endgame we were approximately same size and all had peace. (except myopia who was far away for the rest anyway).
I could have also been me vs patje, myopia-iq, or me-myopia, iq-patje (Both would
have been logistically much more convenient. however, we were so close it would be an easy kill for whoever would start).
Too bad Icequeen had to go, she could have won this also.

PS. "sacked" is too big of a word. i remember it as "made a short visit".

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: Myopia ()
Date: March 22, 2010 11:21AM

Hmmmm, good idea, I will make a thread exclusively for FFA recaps, ala the 2v2 and 3v3 threads. There were some highs, but the main thing for me the end game was so drawn out, at least the 3v1 against master last game had some ebb and flow. I am kinda torn between playing more aggressive and having a little more fun, but if I die early I won't be too inclined to record the events.

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: ghost. ()
Date: March 23, 2010 09:10AM

This was, in my opinion, always gonna happen. The first few were very fun but after a while people come to know who to trust and who to attack. For example: everyone knows Icequeen is trustworthy and sokractes/master aren't. These personas mean the FFA lose their funiness(not a word but can't think of a better one :/) People will take out Master/Sokractes(and i bet you too myopia since you have won 2) first. This get rid of the people who make the game exciting first. Don't holf grudges nor allainces for the next FFA. Play each game as if it was the first FFA.

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: LikeNoOthers ()
Date: March 23, 2010 10:26AM

Why am i not trustworthy? Haven't i honoured all alliances? :/

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: No ()
Date: March 23, 2010 11:24AM

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: Scum ()
Date: March 23, 2010 03:25PM

Master broke no more alliances than anyone else. As Sokrates pointed out last game, he has never broke alliances, only peace. Which Myopia has done as well. Master was only a threat one time, without taking over for someone else.

The only thing I've noticed is that the players who have consistently shown up tend to do better. It's not a regular FFA where you rely on the guy next to you sucking more than yourself. You need to learn some serious Diplomacy skills.

Now, with that said, the old school mentality of everyone for themselves will not uphold here. I am handing out 5 (hopefully more when I get time) awards because I do NOT want to see everyone think if you are the last person standing, oh, you must be the best. That is just gay. The longer you survive, the more likely you are to get awards.

The bottom line is to have some fun. Not try to be the best. If you try to outplay everyone, you will lose. Make some friends, make some enemies. NEVER forget who they are, and carry them over to the next week.

LNO: You're trustworthy in my opinion.
ghost: You focused on nothing but negative aspects of remembering how players play. The social aspect outweighs the little chance that this will die.

We could look at making it a bi-weekly event instead though. There would be more of a build-up then.

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: ghost. ()
Date: March 24, 2010 09:32AM

>Scum Yes, i did focus on the bad things, since that is the type of person i am :p I do agree that they are very fun; even watching them and just talking to the other players can be more fun than the most enjpyable teamgame. Although, i disagree that you should never forget. Or else we will end up with people making more alais to get rid of a persona. Or even worse set teams, which means the FFA will just turn into a bigger teamgame. Which is not why it was suggested.

I do agree whole-heartedily that: 'The bottom line is to have some fun.'

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Re: March 21st - Sunday - 6pm GMT - 16 Player FFA - Sign up !!!
Posted by: Scum ()
Date: March 25, 2010 12:13AM

I can not just forget.

I would suggest everyone use an alias. If you really want to have it so it was like the first 16 player FFA, you would have to have everyone use an alias.

Even then, you will have players message out of game and tell them what their alias is and form permanent alliances. To counter this, I would suggest getting some friends on the site. It won't hurt the game. Form your own alliance.

In addition, just be aware of alliances and who are in those alliances. Knowledge isn't a bad thing.

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