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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: soccer5432 ()
Date: October 03, 2007 10:27AM

1. XuuL
2. Hmmm
3. Soccer543
4. Hallali
5. Liquid
6. Hero
7. Paars
8. Jenny
9. Jynxxx
10. Perfect
11. PV_Mercenary
12. Icadil
13. Keira
14. Osetsky
15. PV_thered
16. Roach
17. Furycan
18. Menegoyt
19. Tinydancer
20. Svendborg
21. Antt

Early morning match between me and hallali i was destroyed but i came back later in the day to better field positioning and 2 glorious wins. although i know it wasnt hallalis best. gg"s

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: soccer5432 ()
Date: October 03, 2007 11:49AM

o and i want to challenge hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
when does he play?

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: hmmm ()
Date: October 05, 2007 09:57PM

No changes per se... but for the record I've recently won a few vs. random players and (not sure if he wants back in on the ladder, but he surely belong at/near the top) lost another one than won my first vs. Davo (thusfar 2-1 overall to Davo).

soccer5432: i'm often on around minight in the eastern US (GMT -4) . Look forward to the challenge.

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: hmmm ()
Date: October 07, 2007 11:42AM

Liquid just beat me...

1. XuuL
2. Liquid
3. Hmmm
4. Soccer543
5. Hallali
6. Hero
7. Paars
8. Jenny
9. Jynxxx
10. Perfect
11. PV_Mercenary
12. Icadil
13. Keira
14. Osetsky
15. PV_thered
16. Roach
17. Furycan
18. Menegoyt
19. Tinydancer
20. Svendborg
21. Antt

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: hmmm ()
Date: October 07, 2007 12:56PM

Won the next three games vs. Liquid... I think it's time for a rematch with XuuL

1. XuuL
2. Hmmm
3. Liquid
4. Soccer543
5. Hallali
6. Hero
7. Paars
8. Jenny
9. Jynxxx
10. Perfect
11. PV_Mercenary
12. Icadil
13. Keira
14. Osetsky
15. PV_thered
16. Roach
17. Furycan
18. Menegoyt
19. Tinydancer
20. Svendborg
21. Antt

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: hmmm ()
Date: October 08, 2007 02:26PM

Paars just beat me in _two_ impressively well played games.

I'm also putting XuuL on notice... haven't seen him on the game or in forum in weeks... give him one more week before he starts sliding down,


1. XuuL
2. Paars
3. Hmmm
4. Liquid
5. Soccer543
6. Hallali
7. Hero
8. Jenny
9. Jynxxx
10. Perfect
11. PV_Mercenary
12. Icadil
13. Keira
14. Osetsky
15. PV_thered
16. Roach
17. Furycan
18. Menegoyt
19. Tinydancer
20. Svendborg
21. Antt

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: hallali ()
Date: October 12, 2007 10:06AM

I beat Paars. But AI was giving him hard times.

1. XuuL
2. Hallali
3. Paars
4. Hmmm
5. Liquid
6. Soccer543
7. Hero
8. Jenny
9. Jynxxx
10. Perfect
11. PV_Mercenary
12. Icadil
13. Keira
14. Osetsky
15. PV_thered
16. Roach
17. Furycan
18. Menegoyt
19. Tinydancer
20. Svendborg
21. Antt

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: jesper ()
Date: October 20, 2007 09:47AM

I beat Osetsky who had too many AI's around him

1. XuuL
2. Hallali
3. Paars
4. Hmmm
5. Liquid
6. Soccer543
7. Hero
8. Jenny
9. Jynxxx
10. Perfect
11. PV_Mercenary
12. Icadil
13. Keira
14. Svendborg
15. Osetsky
16. PV_thered
17. Roach
18. Furycan
19. Menegoyt
20. Tinydancer
21. Antt


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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: jesper ()
Date: October 20, 2007 09:48AM

My conqueror name is Svendborg

:-) Jesper

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: XuuL ()
Date: October 20, 2007 10:07AM

im online several days the week, but i guess we just dont meet us cause we are in a different timezone.. and besides, sometimes i use the account "matsuri"

last time i went online, i asked for ladder in the channel but noone wanted to play.. so what to do?

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: hmmm ()
Date: October 20, 2007 05:59PM

XuuL... I'm sympathetic, and sorry we keep missing each other... but much of the rest of the ladder is in or near your time zone, and there hasn't been a ladder game for you posted by or for you since I posted your beating me and taking over #1 over a month ago on Sept 14th... which seems pretty far past the original ~"must play weekly" suggestions and perhaps frustrating for the rest of the ladder.

I also haven't seen Paars and Hallali in a while either... but figure their Oct 12 match is enough to keep them reasonably current for at least another week... so under the circumstances I think it fairest that Hallali gets to be on top ;-)

1. Hallali
2. XuuL
3. Paars
4. Hmmm
5. Liquid
6. Soccer543
7. Hero
8. Jenny
9. Jynxxx
10. Perfect
11. PV_Mercenary
12. Icadil
13. Keira
14. Svendborg
15. Osetsky
16. PV_thered
17. Roach
18. Furycan
19. Menegoyt
20. Tinydancer
21. Antt

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: hallali ()
Date: October 21, 2007 08:59AM

No need to hurry. I play almost every day and I think there are enough people there to prove it. As a matter of fact I am open to any 1 vs 1. But no one but one has asked so far. And Menegoyt and I will play the next days when I have more time.

I have played and lost enough 1 vs 1 situations against xuul (to be clear: I lost all we played so far) So I think he should be on the top.

1. Xuul
2. Hallali
3. Paars
4. Hmmm
5. Liquid
6. Soccer543
7. Hero
8. Jenny
9. Jynxxx
10. Perfect
11. PV_Mercenary
12. Icadil
13. Keira
14. Svendborg
15. Osetsky
16. PV_thered
17. Roach
18. Furycan
19. Menegoyt
20. Tinydancer
21. Antt


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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: XuuL ()
Date: October 21, 2007 10:22AM

well the problem with this ladder is, that its system doesnt make sense... in proofed ladder systems like the elo in chess or those of esport games u just dont switch places..

u get positive points for winning and negative ones for loosing, repectively to your enemies rank... all those games have an integrated ladder system inside the game what we dont have.. but what we would need to make a real ladder

this here is just a forum ladder and we have to work with that anyhow... i rly dont have a clue of how to improve it

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: Menegoyt ()
Date: October 21, 2007 12:06PM

Hmmm gave me a painful lesson. Despite my better startig position he outrunned me and as the ai closed in he gave me the death blow. GG by Hmmm, no changes.

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: hmmm ()
Date: October 21, 2007 12:12PM

I totally agree about the problems of a forum-based ladder and would be happy for any plausible point based system such as XuuL suggests, whether in the forum or built into the game...

... but for now think that the earlier and well-received ideas on the forum that players must show activity weekly was reasonably fair... and that I used to take on many challenges (included both wins and losses I recorded on the forum) from most of the ladder when I held #1. Currently, at least according to the forum, the #1 spot hasn't accepted a challenge in over five weeks.

Also not sure I agree with trying to fix the ladder based on other criteria. For example, IIRC my record is 4-1 or better vs Hallali but I wouldn't change the current ladder based on that.

Anyhow, for the record no further ladder changes today... but I just won a challenge from Menegoyt and didn't hear back when I challenged XuuL.


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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: : ()
Date: October 22, 2007 07:41AM

Iggy and Shaggy ftw!

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: Perfect ()
Date: October 23, 2007 05:13AM

Hi. I lost my internet So I just play occasionally at friends or work... Sorry i missed that game hmmm.

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: XuuL ()
Date: October 23, 2007 05:35AM

what about a bo3 coming weekend hmmm?

we should make a fix date for CET.. lets say sth like saturday 21:00?

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: jynx ()
Date: October 23, 2007 08:37AM

I haven't been able to play because I've been overly busy.

I'm kinda low so doubt it's that frustrating, but I do agree this has become unreasonably unactive.

This was, and still is, only a temporary solution to the lack of a real ranking system within the game. A ranking system really can't be based in the forum, it needs to be implemented into the game. I started this because I saw alot of players like hmmm using 1v1's to get a feel for how good they are.

I hope we can better it, but I would like it to be in-game, not in-forum.

Must run now.

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Re: Conqueror Ladder System
Posted by: jesper ()
Date: October 23, 2007 10:11AM

Hi
I think the current ladder is okay.
Maybe it's not completely fair since it's always the latest games that is the most important.


On the other hand you always want to play another game if you have lost to a person below you on the ladder.

I think it's a good idea to keep it similar to boxing. You become the champion if you beat the current champion.

:-)
Svendborg aka Jesper

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