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The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Hubic Hair ()
Date: June 21, 2009 11:07AM

With the current volume of 1 vs 1 matches practising for the CT2009 crown I thought there would be interest in this. This way the community can get a good idea of who are the Sun Tzus amongst us and who the Sir Douglas Haigs. Let me explain how it will work.

Looking back at an earlier attempt I see a sort of ladder system was used with people being swapped or dropped down places for inactivity. The drawback of this method is that people at the top can become reluctant to fight because they will be dropped down if they lose, even if they had won 100 matches before that. Also punishing inactivity is a bore because then someone has to keep track of when was the last time a person played.

My idea is relatively simple and it follows the Elo rankings style of games such as chess amongst others. People are given ratings and then win and lose points to move up and down the list. Beating someone ranked higher than you wins you more points than beating a lower ranked player, similarly losing to a highly ranked player means you lose fewer points. Every participate is given an initial rating based on their tournament performance:

1200 + 100 for every round reached.
So a semifinalist would get a rating of 1500.
People who did not participate will be given a rating of 1200.

Here is the list of people I know will participate because they are all big 1vs1 fans:

1 Scum **1300**
2= Adrien **1200**
2= Brighteyes **1200**
2= Dannyray **1200**
2= Hallali **1200**
2= Hubert **1200**
2= Jenny **1200**
2= Master **1200**

The Rules:

Your own. Please don't dissuade people to post games because of bad luck/disconnections. Points lost for a single game is quite small so the best way to get back is to win your next one! Also you can agree to a match being a draw, for example due to disconnections or time constraints. Still post it in here because it does give a small change in ratings.
Just remember it is a friendly competition!

TO BATTLE!

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Scum ()
Date: June 22, 2009 10:13PM

I would love to and will help you out. However, can you explain how the ELO system works one more time, just the mathematical equation.

Plus, is it separate or dependent on the CT09? I think it should be run separate.

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Hubic Hair ()
Date: June 23, 2009 12:13AM

Explanation: [www.chesselo.com]


Calculator: [www.kosteniuk.com]

New Rating = Old Rating + K-factor * (Result - Expected Result)
(I'm using K=25, see webpage for expected result calculation)

It is seperate from the CT09. Inintial ranking are based on the CT09 because the system needs extra points and differences for it to work properly.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/23/2009 12:28AM by Hubic Hair.

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Scum ()
Date: June 23, 2009 08:09AM

We should try both this and the league. See which is better.

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Master ()
Date: June 23, 2009 01:06PM

Scum vs Master.

Map: Aragon (Scum) vs Muscovy (Master).

Winner: Master.

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Scum ()
Date: June 23, 2009 10:57PM

Scum vs. dannyray

Map: forget

Winner: Dannyray

He was considerably ahead when I DC'ed

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Scum vs. Thrylos

Map: Wales (Scum) vs. Moldavia (thrylos)

Winner: Scum

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Scum vs. sixamplayer

Map: England (Scum) vs. Byzantium (sixamplayer)

Winner: Scum

I am posting all my games. If anyone doesn't want to participate in this, then they can ask to be removed.

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Scum ()
Date: June 23, 2009 11:03PM

So ...

1= Scum **1286**
2= Master **1216**
2= Dannray **1216**
3= Thrylos **1191**
3= Sixamplayers **1191**

Correct?

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Hubic Hair ()
Date: June 24, 2009 09:15AM

Hallali vs Hubert
(Nicaea vs Castile)

Winner: Hubert

I'll update the list when we get some more games posted, but Scum I don't think we should count games versus people not on the list at this point in time. Since right now points are almost given equally for each win and we want an accurate reflection of the regular 1v1 players asap. However if sixamplayer and thrylos want to join the list they are fair game!

Also to avoid playing lots of weaker players to boost a score inaccurately, I've thought of a new rule:

You can post games versus a particular player a maximim of 3 times a week.

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Hubic Hair ()
Date: June 25, 2009 09:48AM

Dannyray vs Hubert
(Muscovy vs Castile)

Winner: Hubert

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Scum ()
Date: June 26, 2009 11:45AM

Scum vs. Hubert
(Bulgaria vs. Normandy)

Winner: Hubert

I'll just post every match I play, from there, people can decide what they want.

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Hubic Hair ()
Date: June 26, 2009 01:40PM

Sixamplayer vs Hubert
(Castile vs Nicaea)

Winner: Hubert

Sixamplayer joins our elite list by his request.
Also it has been pointed out to me that this rankings list might be better off completely independent from the tournament because of the random set of matches a player must play there to advance. So let us just stick to individual results posted in this thread.

A quick update reveals:

1 Hubert *1247* *4-0-0*
2 Master *1213* *1-0-0*
3= Dannyray *1200* *1-0-1*
3= Adrien *1200* *0-0-0*
3= Brighteyes *1200* *0-0-0*
3= Jenny *1200* *0-0-0*
7 Hallali *1188* *0-0-1*
8 Scum *1178* *1-0-3*
9 Sixamplayer *1176* *0-0-2*



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/26/2009 02:13PM by Hubic Hair.

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Hubic Hair ()
Date: June 26, 2009 05:17PM

Couple back-to-back versus Dannyray.

Dannyray vs Hubert
(Moldovia vs France)

Winner: Hubert

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Dannyray vs Hubert
(Denmark vs Tunis)

Winner: Hubert

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Hubic Hair ()
Date: June 27, 2009 02:04AM

Sixamplayer vs Hubert
(Wales vs Lithuania)

Winner: Hubert

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Master ()
Date: June 27, 2009 02:30PM

Map: Gascony (Master) vs Wallachia (Sixamplayer)

Winner: Master.

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: sixamplayer ()
Date: June 27, 2009 04:01PM

Map: Wales (dannyray) vs Nicaea (sixamplayer)

Winner: sixamplayer

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: jenny ()
Date: July 01, 2009 05:20AM

come on hubert you create this system and dont even fill it out...sigh

yesterday we played one game and i won

and one game that u won

and then master beat me

if that helps at all i dont remeber the countrie

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Tiffany ()
Date: July 01, 2009 02:06PM

Wow Jenny beat Hubert. Nice going girlfriend !!!
Hu-burp is proving a dark horse in the CT2009, who is that masked man ?...and could he go all the way ?....Not if he meets 'Cold Justice'Jenny !!!

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Hubic Hair ()
Date: July 01, 2009 03:27PM

This is for everyone to update jenny, not just me. So don't sigh at me or I'll give you something to really sigh about.

Jenny vs Hubert
(Lithuania vs Wales)

Winner: Hubert

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Jenny vs Hubert
(Bulgaria vs Flanders)

Winner: Jenny

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Jenny vs Hubert
(Flanders vs Wallachia)

Winner: Hubert

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Hallali vs Hubert
(Gascony vs Ukraine)

Winner: Hubert

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Hallali vs Hubert
(Flanders vs Bulgaria)

Winner: Hubert


And that is how we update the thread Jenny. :)

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Hubic Hair ()
Date: July 02, 2009 06:26AM

Scum vs Hubert
(Aragon vs Lithuania)

Result: Draw

A real nice game, in the end it was pretty even with me having more pop and armies but Scum having more gold. Although it seemed like Scum's under-developed frontlands would hurt him from turn 25 on, his farmed backlands provided alot of gold per turn which I had a short supply of due to Scum moving his armies back every winter. In the end Scum took the fort in Napoli to protect Italy, but I took Burgundy, Bohemia and Holland. Then disaster, an advert was clicked and the ai made moves for 2 turns during winter.

An honourable Draw.

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Re: The 1vs1 Rankings
Posted by: Captain Planet ()
Date: July 02, 2009 11:27PM

Can you not move the window over to the side so that they go off the screen? I can't log on these days, not sure if it's changed.

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